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Kelly Booz 2: Hey, I'm Kelly Booz, and
welcome back to The AI Educator BrAIn.

We're two years old — which
means we're officially in our

terrible twos, and honestly, this
episode lives up to that energy.

Saeri Beth Rosenberg and I are
joined by our most frequent guest

and resident AI expert, Christopher
Penn, for a deep dive into Google's

NotebookLM — the tool that lets you
upload your own curriculum, textbooks,

and lesson plans and turn them into
slide decks, podcasts, videos, quizzes,

and flashcards in over 80 languages.

Chris demos the whole thing
live using a Common Core math

textbook he built with AI.

Minecraft themed.

Obviously.

But before we get there — we kick
off with Creepy or Cool, dig into

AI-generated propaganda videos,
and deliver our SNL Weekend

Update–style AI Educator News Update.

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Alright, let's get into it.

All right.

We're back at April and we
have the Honorable Christopher

Pen and joining us today.

How are you doing?

Christopher Pen?

Speaker 3: I, I am doing as good
as it gets in this crazy world.

It's been a hot minute since the last
time we were on, last time we were

on, we were not at war with Iran.

Speaker 2: Oh, wait.

Oh dear.

Wow.

Oh,

Speaker: thanks.

Wow.

We are just go, we're going straight in.

Speaker 2: Was it before?

Was it before?

Oh, so it had to have been
before Power Plant Day.

Bridge Day.

Um, don't know what a doctor
is anymore, but here we are.

Speaker: Apparently doctor is also Jesus.

Um,

Speaker 2: Dr.

Jesus, welcome.

Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Actually that is a great question.

I'm gonna start with creep or Cool.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Um,

Speaker 2: let's do

Speaker: it in just a second.

And Chris, I'm gonna ask you,
can you pull up that image really

quickly on your screen and share it
just in case you haven't seen it?

So, hi everybody.

We should start with like, as he's
finding the image, I'm Kelly Boo.

Rude of us amt share my lesson and
I've got, I'm here with my besties.

Yes.

Sarah Beth.

Speaker 2: Hello.

I know we need to be
in real life together.

I feel like all we are is
in our robot world soon.

This, this is true this summer for this is

Speaker: true.

I mean, you don't even know
we could be robots right now.

We might not be real.

Speaker 2: It's

Speaker: possible,

Speaker 2: you know.

Yeah, just, I

Speaker: mean, nobody can
be as funny as me, but, um,

Speaker 2: true.

No robot, no robot can replace your humor.

Speaker: Yes, yes.

All right.

So I see a lot of people
using the attendee chat.

Keep that up.

Let us know where you're joining us from.

Um, north Macedonia.

Oh, okay.

Welcome.

Um, so let us know where
you're joining us from.

So this is our AI educator brain.

This is actually, we, this
is our two year birthday.

Sarah Beth.

We've done this now for two years.

Oh my.

We're going into, into year three.

We're becoming the terrible, oh my God.

We're just finished our terrible two.

We're going into the
terrible twos, I should say.

Um, that's exciting.

Speaker 2: And, and it's very ex, I
can't believe we're two years old.

Speaker: I know, I know.

It's crazy.

And so, you know, for those of you
who are brand new, we've been doing

this series for a long time now.

Christopher Penn is our most common
and most, uh, regular guest, um,

appearance that he's part of this team.

Um, we have a lot of fun with him, and he
is super knowledgeable on all things ai.

And he's here today to talk
to us about, uh, notebook lm.

But we have some pretty
standard fun things.

So you'll, you'll know if you're
brand new to us, that we are goofy.

We like to have fun.

We like to laugh at ourselves.

We like to cry about, you know, um,
the state of the world that we're

in right now, state of the world.

Um, not

Speaker 2: so hard

Speaker: to make that

Speaker 2: happen.

Speaker: And so we have a couple
fun segments that we always

start with, um, just to kind of
get us into what's happening.

One of those is called Creepy or
Cool when you get to decide, and

that'll be your first poll question.

So Chris is going to, and Sarah Beth,
why don't you, uh, Chris, why don't

you show the image And then Sarah
Beth, why don't you set up what is

happening here with the AI world?

Speaker 2: Well, well
everyone, um, you know.

I actually popped this up for
my students, not this tweet.

Don't worry.

I wasn't being political.

I just, uh, this was my starter today.

I popped that up on the screen because
our president, uh, tweeted this out.

Or two social, this image out,
uh, as you can see right here.

Um, now I asked, I didn't wanna, I,
you know, I don't wanna assume things.

So people were very angry because most
people thought that this was Trump

per saying, per Trump, uh, portraying
himself as Jesus Christ himself.

Now, um, when Trump was asked about it, he
said that he thought it was, uh, a doctor.

He thought he was an AI
image of him as a doctor.

So, I'm gonna ask you all two questions.

Number one, I asked my students
this today, doctor or Christ.

Um, I'm gonna let you know that
every single one of my students

disagreed with the president.

They thought this was
Jesus Christ, not a doctor.

Uh, but, um, our question for
you is, uh, creep or cool.

Speaker: Yeah.

So you'll, you'll see us as we
talk about various a ai uses, um,

throughout where we ask whether
that's a creepy or a cool, um, AI use.

And then go ahead and
use that attendee chat.

Um, that creepier cool should be
popping up on your screen with a

little ding, um, for you to respond.

Uh, so let us know what you think
about that, um, in your response.

But you can also, um, yeah,
creepy and sacrilegious.

I agree with you, Jerry.

Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 2: Definitely.

Yes.

My students agree with you.

They thought it was mm-hmm.

Appalling and sacrilegious.

Uh, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Um, so go ahead and
submit that poll response.

Uh, we'll have a couple more of
these polls throughout as we go.

And also one of the things that we love,
so we know that you're here and with us.

Use those little emojis where you see
the little heart on the laughter and

the tears and all that other stuff.

Let us know.

Yeah.

If

Speaker 2: you wanna cry,

Speaker: fly

Speaker 2: over that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Free if you wanna cry.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's see what people thought.

Okay.

Speaker 2: What did people find?

Speaker: So creepy.

Creepy.

Alright.

Chris, what did you think about this one?

Speaker 3: Uh, I, it's not creepy
so much as it is just idiotic.

Yeah,

Speaker: right.

Speaker 3: I did see the funny,
there was a, I, I don't have it.

There was a very funny TikTok edit
somebody did of that where they

animated it and then Jesus flies down
from the clouds, grabs trump, lights

him on fire and throws him into hell.

Whoa.

Speaker 2: Was that one
of those Lego videos?

Speaker 3: No, no.

That was a, a, a random TikTok or
decided, ah, let's extend the idea.

Speaker: Okay, Chris, you may have to
find us a link so we can take a look.

I'll have to preview it
before I share with everybody.

Um,

Speaker 2: I mean, I, I brought up,
and another thing too, I mean with,

in terms of ai, I wanted to ask Chris
this, um, in terms of stuff related to

the president, there's been so many,
um, ai, I, I'm being told, those Lego

videos coming out from Iran or ai Yes.

Clearly they were not done in a studio
that would've taken a lot longer than

it's taking them to pop those out.

What are your thoughts on those
in terms of just like, how, how

are they making those so quickly?

Speaker: And if you have a, if you
have a visual that we can pop up, um,

if we can pop that up on the screen,
if you have, that would be great.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

What are they using?

What like apps are they using?

Not that I'm thinking of making any guys.

It's not me.

Um,

Speaker 3: um, we're, so there's
no watermark on these, which.

Indicates that they are pro
again, this is knowing, uh, Iran.

Yeah.

And knowing the, the, the folks
that they, um, they typically work

with, they're, if I had to place a
guess, these are probably mm-hmm.

Using, uh, bite Dance's c Dance 2.0

model, which is one of, uh, China's best
performing, uh, very high fidelity models.

I'm not gonna, I, I'm not gonna
actually play a thing 'cause you

know, it'll eat our bandwidth.

But you can see there are still
little artifacts here and there, but

they, they're very, very well done.

And that is characteristic
of, of sea dance.

Sea dance is a very, very good model.

It is, and this is something
that people should be aware of.

Um, there are a lot of different,
uh, AI video generation models, and

only some of them have watermarking.

So Google's VO three has a watermark
called Synth ID built into it.

Um, open AI's.

Former video model called Sora, which
they shut down because it was costing

them too much money has watermarking.

A lot of video models do not.

In fact, there are some that um, not only
are not watermarked, but you can also get

them in completely uncensored uh, form.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker: Wow.

That's again, guardrails people.

This is what we talk about
at the a t all the time.

Finding those Right.

Guardrails.

Um, and so, right.

So yeah.

So as much as we, um, um, you know,
I'm throwing another creepier cool.

Creepier Cool on those,
um, what Chris has shared.

Yeah.

Videos.

Curious.

I'm curious

Speaker 2: in the comments, I'm curious,
how many of you are seeing those in your

algorithm or in the news, those videos?

Speaker: Oh, good question.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

'cause I see them, it's like I open
up my phone and there's a new one.

There was just one about
Melania this morning.

It's like every.

It's ama it's pretty, however
you feel about it all.

It's extraordinary how quickly
they throw them together and

how much they know about mm-hmm.

American culture and what's
going on minute to minute.

Speaker: Yeah.

Or like we talked about last month,
you know, the, uh, the robots coming

to be teachers at a school near you.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Scary.

Um,

Speaker 2: very scary.

Speaker: Oh gosh.

We have so much to get into,
but before we get into it, yeah,

let's, this is, this is one of our
favorite segments of the series.

Um, and so I'm gonna do a little
video to introduce it, and

then we're gonna jump right in.

My friends.

Speaker 4: Live from Share my lesson.

It's the AI Educator News
update with your hosts, Kelly

Booze and Sarah Beth Rosenberg.

Real news, slightly exaggerated,
always AI educator approved.

Speaker: Okay, we're
jumping right in, you guys.

This is our AI Educator news web update.

Um, you know.

Ripped off of Saturday Night
Lives, um, weekend update.

So, hi everyone.

Welcome back to the AI educator Brain.

It is April.

We survived the spring, but
spring allergies, the nose

is, or the jury is still out.

And I'm saying nose because my nose
is ripped off of the allergies.

Speaker 2: I don't wanna, I don't wanna
jinx myself, but right now I'm Okay.

So April is that beautiful window
where every teacher is simultaneously

counting down to summer and being asked
to submit next year's supply list.

I haven't been asked that yet.

In fact, anyway, that's
a different conversation,

Speaker: although I feel like
that's probably more elementary

school teachers, in fairness.

Speaker 2: That's true.

That's true.

Speaker: Could be.

Speaker 3: And meanwhile,
the AI world has been a lot.

Robots are dying at Disneyland.

Chachi PT selling ads.

Boston just told high schoolers
they have to learn AI to graduate.

Speaker 2: So we gathered the
headlines, we added the jokes.

These are all real stories, we promise.

Speaker: With a little bit of our spin.

Of course.

Alright, so let's go,
let's jump right into it.

Speaker 2: Okay.

So first story is Olaf
Falls down dead at Disney.

Disney Land.

Paris, we're we're coming in hot.

Sorry guys.

We're coming in real

Speaker: hot.

And I I do have the video for this one.

Speaker 2: You do?

Okay.

Do you wanna throw it?

You wanna throw it up?

Speaker: Yeah.

Yeah.

No fi you fi you finish
and then I'll show.

Speaker 2: Okay.

So, Disney's New World of Frozen at
Disneyland Paris, and, uh, featured

a walking Olaf robot powered by
three computers and trained via

10, a hundred thousand Nvidia uh,

simulations.

It failed after one day, that Monday
all off when catatonic mid-sentence

toppling over his carrot nose popped off.

Um, employees.

The body after,

Speaker 5: sorry.

There we go.

Speaker: That's me on every Monday.

Okay.

Oh my God.

So poor Ola

Speaker 2: poor.

And every teacher knows this feeling.

You spent all weekend on a lesson plan.

You rehearse, you laminate.

Oh God, I wish I could laminate.

And by second period, a
kid has eaten the laminate.

See, this is why I'm
glad I teach 11th grade.

Speaker: Oh my goodness.

Um, yes.

Okay.

So, uh, so.

Chat.

GPT now has ads.

You know how Sam Altman, I don't
know if you paid attention,

Chris, you probably did.

'cause you pay attention to all
of the things for us, um, said in

2024 that putting ads in AI was,
and I'm quoting uniquely upsetting,

unsettling, and a last resort.

Well, we have finally reached
that last resort in February,

open as started testing ads and
chat GPT for free tier users.

The ads appear on the bottom of answers.

They're contextual.

So if you're asking about recipes,
you might see ads from meal kits.

If you're asking about travel,
you might get some hotel deals.

Or if you're asking about
managing stress, uh, they're gonna

try to sell you more chat gt.

Um, or if you're asking for dating
device, it'll tell you to swipe

left or right, you never know.

Um, and so there, I'm
just gonna end there.

That one wasn't as good.

Speaker 3: Yes.

Uh, the reason why is OpenAI
will burn through $119 billion.

By 2029.

That's how fast they're,
they're burning through money.

So just, just to be aware of that.

Um,

Speaker 5: wow.

That's

Speaker 3: crazy.

Uh, in the meantime, Boston just became
the first major city school district in

this country to say every high school
student will graduate with AI proficiency.

Mayor Michelle Wu announced it
late in late March, back by a $1

million grant for Paul English.

The guy who founded Kayak and is a
Boston Public Schools graduate himself.

BPS has partnered with UMass Boston's
AI Institute to develop the curriculum,

starting with 20 high schools.

This September, teachers will
be trained as AI ambassadors.

Students will get access to credit
bearing courses at UMass Boston.

And of course, the internet reacted
exactly the way you would expect.

Uh, one sixth grader, the
announcement said he built a

chat bot for his English class.

It helps students calm down when
they're stressed about homework.

He's 11.

That kid is going to be running
things in about 12 years.

Speaker: Wow.

Adobe's Ppy gate.

And actually, you know, I'm
gonna pause for a second.

Chris, you live in, you live
in Boston, you're living there?

Speaker 3: I do.

Oh

Speaker 2: yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, what was the
scuttlebutt on this one?

Um, aside from our amazing jokes,

Speaker 3: it it's, it's,
it's late to the party.

So, uh, the People's Republic of
China, uh, all schools in Beijing are

teaching AI as early as six years old.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker 2: Wow.

What, huh?

Speaker: Okay.

That's, that is, that's, that's crazy.

And meanwhile, we're having lots of
conversations about how we need to,

you know, um, reduce our screen times
with kids here in the United States.

Okay.

Um, yes.

We will get into notebook
element in a second.

Don't worry.

Chris has got a great plan for us.

Alright, so this one's, um, I'm gonna
go with, I'll let you guys decide.

The Adobe's Ppy gate when the
school AI made the wrong pipi.

So a fourth grader at the Los Angeles
Elementary School was working on a

book report and asked Adobe Express or,
um, for education, the AI tool that's

provided by our school to generate an
image of long stockings, a redheaded

girl with braids sticking straight out.

She was describing Ppy Longstocking,
the character from a Swedish children's

book, which I'm sure we have all done.

Uh, and the response did not come up
with, uh, exactly what they're doing.

So basically, a nine-year-old asked her
school's AI to draw Ppy Longstockings,

and she got Victoria's Secret models
on a school issued Chromebook.

And let's take a look at
what that really entailed.

And so this is what was displayed at two
fourth graders based on the description.

Oh, Lord.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker: I just can't, I just can't.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Okay, cool.

So segueing to this New York City,
New York wants to, um, open an AI

high school parents have questions.

New York City's Department of
Education proposed opening a brand

new AI focused high school called Next
Generation Technology High School.

It was announced in late February,
and it's going to open this fall by

the way, and would use Google, uh,
Google AI powered skills platform

as a major part of its curriculum.

The school's website used language
that was, how do we put this?

Nearly identical to Google's
own marketing, uh, copy.

And parents from three collated
schools, um, at the proposed

sites sent hundreds of letters.

As you caner imagine, the panel for
educational policy had questions.

The high school offers, um, had
already gone out to eighth graders

before the school was even approved.

Yeah.

'cause I know all the kids have decided,
you know, gotten their, um, offerings.

Um.

Yeah, we, and on.

Yeah, I mean, and also like
speaking of ai, we have our first

ever guidance here in New York.

We can talk more about that later.

But the chancellor said AI is here and
our responsibility is to put strong

system-wide safeguards in place, which
is true, but it's also 2026 and chat.

DPT came out in 2022.

So here has been here for a while
and as all teachers in this chat

right now and people who work with
kids, it's definitely with them.

So, um, I'm glad we're doing it now, but,

Speaker: hmm, we're all playing catch
up and then as soon as we play catch

up, it changes and does a new skill.

Speaker 3: Uh, an roic, the makers of
Claude unveiled mythos their newest

model, so proficient at discovering and
exploring software vulnerabilities that

will not be released to the public.

In the, it dis autonomously identified
thousands of flaws across major

operating systems and browses, including
bugs that have been in a place in

critical infrastructure software
for 27 years, and successfully not

only exploited them, but managed to
break out of its own containment.

It was in its own little container
and it managed to figure out how to

break out of its own containment.

Oh, uh, an anthrop has been o said that
will not be released to the public.

It will instead, uh, be used for
research and only, uh, with certain

approved national security partners.

Uh, this model, by the

Speaker: way, which is not gonna be
the federal government by the way.

Speaker 3: This model, by the way, is the
first model, it's called a looping LLM.

It is the first one of its kind that
it can run autonomously for up to 24

hours at a time with over 50 sub agents.

So it's basically an entire team that
can go out and do things, uh, on its own.

That's why it is so successful.

It is, uh, this past week, by the way, it
was two weeks ago, um, the, uh, Chinese AI

company, PUI, uh, AI, released a GLM 5.1,

which can do about the same
thing on an eight hour time span.

Uh, and it, that one, unlike ops is
available, it is free to use, uh,

and is, uh, and, and is in use now.

Speaker: Wow.

Okay.

Well, that my friends,
is your AI news update.

Speaker 2: Remember, AI can now
find bugs that, hi, for 27 years,

guess your age from your bedtime.

Ooh.

And generate ads inside
your homework helper.

Speaker: Great.

But it can still drop if you belong.

Stocking, survive a Monday or open
a high school on a normal timeline.

Speaker 2: All right,
we'll see you next time.

Speaker: Okay,

Speaker 2: that feels

Speaker: ominous.

I know it does a little bit.

So we, we always talk about
what's happening when the AI news,

there's always something new.

It's moving super fast.

And, uh, this is where we bring Chris
in to like, keep us sane, which is

actually hysterical since, uh, you
know, Chris, Chris will go off on

various tangents and here we go.

Chris, we're turning it over to you.

Notebook, lm.

Alright, every, like of all of
the tools, this is by far the

one I hear the most from are
educators that they love the most.

Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yes, notebook, lm.

So let's, let's dig into this.

What is this thing and why
are we talking about it?

So, notebook LM is a product from Google.

It is available in two versions,
a free version and a paid version.

The, uh, they both have
surprisingly good data security.

However, please, uh, adhere to, uh,
common sense and basic rules that

say do not ever, uh, upload sensitive
data such as student information,

et cetera, into these tools.

What this tool is, is unique
about in terms of AI tools is

that you have to provide the data.

It does not come with any data preloaded.

This is an example of a brand new
notebook where there's nothing in here.

And if you were to start chatting
with, it'd be like, so you haven't

given me anything to work with,
therefore I can't do anything.

Um, notebook LM enables you to
chat with your data so you can, you

load data into it and then it will.

Interrogate the data you've given
it and then allow you to create

information products or ask it questions.

Some of the use cases that people use it
for outside of work, uh, really powerful.

You can go onto places like the National
Institute of Health or archive.org

or any place where there's peer reviewed
research, download things like medical

papers, load them in here, and then
ask questions like, Hey, I have,

I see this new paper on GLP ones.

Explain this to me.

What does this thing mean?

Why is this discovery significant?

So it's a great tool for both
educators professionally as well as

students to be able to get data, uh,
that they have explained to them.

So today what we're gonna do is
gonna go through some of the basics

of the tool and what it can do.

And the use cases where an educator
would would want to use it,

particularly its information outputs.

The interface comes with three parts.

On the left hand side is the
sources where you put information

in and is of course is the default.

The middle is a chat box similar to chat,
GPT and Gemini and all these other tools.

And on the right hand side is what
is called the studio where you

can make information products.

I'm gonna start by feeding
it, uh, a textbook.

So I have, uh, I don't have
a, a math textbook handy, so I

used Claude Code to write one.

Uh, I pulled the entire Common
Core curriculum and said, write

me a sixth grade math textbook.

And it did.

It also made lesson plans.

It also made a workbook to go with it.

Very helpful.

Still not the most exciting
thing in the world.

Speaker: Oh my gosh.

Chris, are you willing to share that
with us so we can share with, um, with

these folks and get some feedback on it?

Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

Um, it's not done like there.

You'll notice, uh, there are places in
the textbook that says like, there's,

there's an image prompt here to generate
the image and that we have not done that.

Um, mm-hmm.

But it is, uh, as far as what
I liked about it in particular

is that it also tells you which
of the common core requirements

this particular chapter meets.

Speaker: Interesting.

Speaker 3: Yes.

So if I were to, if I wanna show how this
software works, I would need to put this

textbook, which is all in just regular
HTML files as webpage into Notebook lm.

And what you'll get when you, uh,
when you do this, is you can see all

of the files on the left hand side.

You can see the chat in the middle.

And by the way, if there's stuff that
you don't have access to, you can use

Google's research facility, whether
it's called deep research or fast

research to bring in extra sources.

Um.

I don't need to do that 'cause I provided
an entire textbook and I could chat with

this and I could say, for example, um,

is the historical background of
algebra, where did it come from?

Hmm.

And we'll put that in here.

And like any chat bot, it will
go to my textbook and it will

say, here's what you provided.

We know it is from, uh,
Iran, it's from Persia.

Uh, a ninth, I think it was a
ninth century mathematician.

The, it was known from the
man from Qua, uh, which is

where we get the word algebra.

And uh, and it was, it was a Persian
mathematician who, who basically

created the idea of, of solving, oh,
here Mohammed, even Musa qua, the

man from Qua, uh, that determines,
derive from the phrase algebra, which

means to the reunion of broken parts.

And this is what it
does that I really like.

You will notice there are
citations in the text.

So when you upload a, a document and
you tap on uh, something, it will tell

you, here's where I got this from.

So, um, if you're not sure,
like, Hey, it's, you said

something kind of weird there.

Where did you get this information from?

And it will say, I got this from
chapter six in the textbook.

So it grounds what it does in the text.

You provided it,

okay, so already pretty useful.

You load data into it, you can then
talk to your data, ask it questions.

You can, uh, you can pull it, you can
uh, uh, ask it to explain things in a

different format if you don't understand.

But then where we get into some really
cool value is the educational product side

on the right hand side called the studio.

In the studio.

As of today, there are nine
different outputs you can.

Audio overviews, which are like
podcasts, slide decks, video overviews,

mind maps, reports, flashcards,
quizzes, infographics and data tables.

And these things are, you, you
give them prompts just like you

do in, you know, any form of ai.

And they can generate OutCo
outputs that are, are really cool.

So let's look at a couple of examples.

Um, I made this textbook, the sixth
grade textbook to be Minecraft themed,

because that's what, you know, uh,
the, the, the, at least I'm told that's

what the kids think is cool these days.

Mm-hmm.

I, I wouldn't know.

I'm not cool.

Uh,

so let's look, you're

Speaker: geeky.

Cool.

You're geeky.

Cool.

Speaker 3: I take

Speaker: it you're cooler than us,

Speaker 3: I suppose.

So, so let, let's take a look at
this slide deck that it created

from just chapter, I mean,

Speaker 2: sorry, Kelly.

Speaker: You're cool.

Speaker 3: Um, so this is
chapter nine, solving Equations,

the Mathematics of Balance.

And it says here, this is the, some of
the core tenets from this, uh, chapter.

An equation is a statement of balance.

To win a game, you have
to keep the scale level.

The equal side means is both
sides carry the exact same weight.

The variable is the mystery chest, right?

A variable represents an unknown number.

It's like a sealed chest.

You don't know what's inside, but
you gotta figure out what it means.

And to solve an equation, you find the
value that makes the statement true.

You figure out what's in the
chest and the textbook itself.

I generated using academic papers
from the last 10 years about how to

do things like a cognitive scaffolding
and motivational scaffolding, uh,

CRA instructional style and stuff.

And that bleeds through into the way
that notebook produces its stuff.

So takes you from a, a Minecraft
visualization to a representation

to the abstract and then.

Obviously it goes through, uh, the
rest of the entire, uh, chapter.

It, this is a pretty decent slide deck.

It's certainly better than what you're
gonna find in your average textbook.

Well, I'm assuming this, uh, sorry, Beth,
I would actually look to you for you to

tell me, is this better or worse than
what you get in your average textbook?

Speaker 2: I would be more likely
to learn math with this personally.

What does everyone else think?

Speaker: Yeah, that's a great question
because I mean, you're, you're,

you're coming from this, from a, you
know, social studies history teacher.

Um, you know, math is not

Speaker 2: your

Speaker: focus area.

Um, I mean, I used to
be really great at math.

I actually think this would help
me help my 13-year-old and, um,

10-year-old remember some of this stuff.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

I wish I had this when I was in high
school because, I mean, I was a nerd.

Geek and I got good grades, but I
don't think I ever fully understood

math in a way that I wish I did.

I did it to do well in the test, but
this would make me actually understand.

It feels more tangible.

Yeah.

What does everyone else think in the chat?

Jamie says better.

Speaker: Yeah.

And if you don't wanna type in the chat,
give us, um, use your little emojis.

Give us a little emojis.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Know what's working.

What do you, like?

Speaker 2: Heart says you think
this is better than your average.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: McGraw Hill or whatever.

Yeah.

It looks more contemporary
and students will relate.

I agree.

Speaker 3: Yep.

And

Speaker 2: you can see here

Speaker 3: for this.

For this slide deck you can download
as a PDF, you can download as a

PowerPoint, so you can take it out of
here and bring it into other systems.

So that's one of the outputs.

Oh, wow.

Another output, uh, in
here is infographics.

So you can take an info, you
can take the same prompt to say,

give me this lessons key concept.

So chapter nine's key concept, which is
balancing in algebra as an infographic.

I said, make it, you know,
Lego and Minecraft themed.

It did, you can remix it into pretty
much anything by giving it a prompt.

Um, this is, so this is how to,
this is sort of the, the core

tenet of this particular lesson.

Speaker: Wow, that's so interesting.

I mean, I actually wonder, you know,
so Sarah Beth and like some of our, you

know, I know you're US history, but I
wonder for other teachers, um, on here,

you know, if you could use, you know, a
lesson plan that's been pride and true

that you've used for a long time and feed
it into this model to then, you know,

create some of these different graphics.

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly this.

I love this because this is
helping me because I've used it

on, on Google classrooms, but it's
created the graphics, it's used.

See, my students are really, they,
uh, this is like my ongoing thing

that they think that they get
mad about ai, but they get mad.

Mostly they don't like that, kind
of like the AI that Trump uses.

So if they, if it was like
Legos or something, I think

they would be more into it.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Um, so let's look at a couple
other things you can generate.

Uh, it can generate audio.

Lemme just make sure.

I think I have audio sharing.

Janan, let's find out.

Speaker 6: Cool.

Think of a variable as just a sealed
bag holding an unknown quantity picture.

Destiny placing a chest containing an
unknown number of Minecraft blocks on the

left side of a physical pan balance scale.

Now why do we even need algebra?

If we can just guess the number
in our heads, well guessing

completely crashes and burns.

The second and answer involves
messy fractions or decimals.

Second.

Speaker 3: So again.

It cr in this case it created
a 92nd, uh, information brief.

Uh, and when you create these things,
well, we'll talk about how to create

them in a second, but you can create
anywhere from, um, 90 seconds, two

minutes, all the way up to like a half
hour vigorous debate, uh, as a podcast.

Another thing it does, it makes videos.

Um, so let's go ahead and roll this here.

Speaker 7: Destiny needs to compare
the total number of Minecraft blocks

hidden inside two separate crates.

Crate A contains exactly five loose
blocks and a sealed bag holding an

unknown number of items we can't see.

Crate B is much simpler holding exactly
14 loose blocks with no hidden containers.

To find the relationship between
these two crates, we rely on a

physical tool to prove their weight.

When we place crate A on the left
pan and crate B on the right,

the scale sits perfectly left.

Both sides carry exact same value.

You could try to guess what's
in the bag, but that guesswork

fails the moment numbers become.

Speaker 3: So those, the videos,
it creates, uh, between two and 10

minutes long depending on the topic.

And then finally, in terms of education
support, it will do things like generate

actual quizzes that you can test,
uh, that you can take, you can, um,

uh, these are interactive within the
tool, uh, which is helpful just to be

able to see the quizzes themselves.

It will generate flashcards.

So, uh, for example, what mathematical
statement uses an equal sign to show that

two expressions are equal of an equation.

Uh, Marcus calls a variable
of value variable that makes

the equation true, a solution.

Uh, and you know, that is again,
derived from the textbooks.

And finally, you've got a big, um, work,
like in this case, an entire textbook.

It will create mind maps that you
can then explore and look at the

individual pieces and then tap on that.

And it will be, it will tell you a sort
of a summary of that particular document.

So these are the things that notebook
element can do with data that you give

it, which is one of the reasons why we
like it so much because you can upload an

individual lesson plan, you can upload an
entire chapter, or in my case, I uploaded

an entire math textbook into the system.

Um, in terms of limits, uh, it
can hold each individual notebook.

LM notebook can hold up on the
free version, up to 50 documents

on the paid version up to 300.

And each document can be
about 50 megabytes of text.

Uh, you can also load images, audio files,
YouTube videos, uh, and web pages as well.

And so that's

Speaker: Chris.

Lemme pause you.

Let me pause you that, um, say that
again in terms of what the free,

the free versus the paid version.

'cause that is a common question we get.

Do we have to pay for this?

Yes.

Um, 'cause as we know, our educators
are not paid nearly the month

enough that you guys deserve.

Speaker 5: Yeah,

Speaker 3: that's right.

So the free version, uh, lets you
upload 50 documents in a notebook.

The paid version lets you upload
300, um, additional limits.

The free version does not give
you access to audio or video.

Um, it, it will not let you generate
those 'cause that costs Google a fair

amount of, of com uh, computation time.

Uh, it can do like the
flashcards in the quizzes.

Mm-hmm.

The paid version, uh, is $20 per month.

Speaker: Hmm.

Okay.

And so the 50, so the 50 doc, is
that 50 documents just limited across

all of Notebook lm, so, or is it per
No, it's per notebook per project.

So it's per notebook.

So like, let's say you're doing, um,
something on a unit on uh, ratios.

You can have a notebook and up to 50
attachments there, and then you have a

no new one on, I don't know, um, area.

You can do a separate notebook there.

Speaker 3: Yep, that's correct.

And if your district is a Google
Workspace district, you have Google for

education, you have, you automatically
have the paid version of Notebook.

Speaker: Ah, very cool.

Very cool.

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3: Um, so now one of the
things to know about this tool is that

underneath the hood, it is entirely
powered by Google's Gemini three model.

So if you know.

How to prompt?

Well, you can, um, you can generate
really, really useful materials.

Any of these, uh, chiclets in the studio
here that have an arrow next to them that

indicates that you can customize, um,
what it is that you're going to generate.

So, for example, if I tap on the
infographic here, gonna tap on the

little arrow, it will bring up options.

How do you want to customize it?

And it has a little prompt area here.

This prompt area is deceptive.

It looks like.

Oh, make it something short and sweet.

You don't have to, you can put up to
10,000 characters, uh, as a prompt there.

So to give you an example of
what kind of prompt you might,

that I, I used four things here.

Uh, I created a prompt that
went that, uh, let me, yeah,

I'll just talk it through here.

Uh, I'll put this in that says, actually,
you know, I can do it in Google Docs.

Let's make a new document here, share
this tab and we'll make this bigger.

So this is an example of
the prompt that I created.

It says, let's create key concepts
from the source you, the media type.

And I just, this is all arbitrary.

So this is, there's nothing
super special about this.

This is just purely arbitrary.

I use these little bracketed things
to help the AI model understand, oh,

this is, this section is different
than the other sections of the prompt.

So, so we don't have,

Speaker: have to, so people don't, people
don't have to remember to put that in

Speaker 3: in their past.

No, not at all.

Speaker 2: Oh,

Speaker 3: okay.

Not at

Speaker: good.

Okay.

Speaker 3: Um, but I want, I want
it Minecraft themed, uh, the source.

I told it use chapter
nine, solving equations.

That's what we're gonna be using, uh,
style use active voice only because ai,

all ai, but especially um, uh, text models
have a tendency to write in passive voice.

And passive voice is the enemy of clarity.

It is.

Um, it is also, by the way,
one of the things you can do to

completely hose any AI detector.

Um, but.

You know, all the educational materials,
active voice only, and then the audience

just telling it, Hey, this is for sixth
grade students, so consider, you know,

what level of readability is appropriate
for sixth grade, and use verbatims

from the textbook as much as possible.

It's common core aligned
to sixth grade readability.

So that's what I, that
was the prompt that I use.

And then when I use that in this tool,
I literally just copy and paste it in

and it generates the, the particular
assets for our uh oh value's.

Asking what's passive voice?

Passive voice is the dishes were washed.

Yeah.

And the question is.

But by who?

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

Whereas if you say, I wash the
dishes, that's active voice.

Speaker: That's my high school.

My high school husband English teacher.

Speaker 5: Yes.

Yes,

Speaker 3: exactly.

The, as a sidebar, the reason why AI
uses so much passive voice is because

business uses passive voice a lot
as a way to dodge accountability.

If you could say, the website
traffic was down this month.

Yeah.

Instead of saying, oh, we screwed up
and, and website traffic was down.

Um, in general, we try
to avoid passive voice.

Um, for educators who are working
in, um, in, in multilingual districts

notebook, LM supports 82 languages.

So you could, if you have students
who are speak, for example, speak

Haitian Creole, you can generate any
of these assets in that language.

Um, so let's, let me queue up one here.

Let's do an infographic and I'm
gonna add to my prompt, um, I'm

gonna, let's switch this tab.

I'm gonna, let's, I'm just gonna
add a little li limiter here.

Uh, language

all, all output must be
in Haitian Creole only.

And I'm gonna copy that in.

I'm going to go back to my notebook
and I'm going to choose Haitian

Creole as the language, but I've
also put it in the prompt as well.

Um, we're gonna do chapter nine,
and this time for a diagram.

Let's go with, let's go
with anime as their style.

Now this will probably, the
infographics themselves take probably

three to five minutes to gener.

The videos can take up to 45 minutes
because they have to use, um,

Gemini's, uh, video generation service.

And even on the paid version, you
are limited to, I believe, five

videos a day because of just how
computationally intensive these are.

Um, let's look at, oh,
we just did infographic.

Um, you can, for example, in
the audio overview, same thing.

You can specify the different languages.

So I did a version of this, uh, when
I was, uh, speaking at a financial aid

conference that took the Pell Grant.

Uh, documentation from the US
government, which is already obtuse.

Um, and I said, build an explainer
for a Haitian Creole speaker

about how the Pell Grant works.

And it did a phenomenal
job of translating it.

It, and then we obviously, uh,
when I did the, a presentation

at the conference, they had folks
there who were native speakers.

They're like, yeah, I understand it.

It's a little formal,
it's a little stilted.

It's not, you know, perfectly natural.

But

Speaker: it's, that's a
great example of using, yes.

That's fantastic.

Speaker 2: That's such a great idea.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

And anything that the, the tools don't
support themselves, you could just

prompt, uh, in general, and here you
could say, uh, something along the

lines of, you know, create a lesson
plan specifically about chapter nine.

Uh, so let's say, uh, I
need to create, I need to.

For chapter nine, for a 45 minute class
for my sixth graders on solving equations.

Give me a minute by minute outline
in markdown format of what I

should teach for teaching chapter
nine for a 45 minute class.

And I'm gonna put in from my other,
from the, my prompt, I'm gonna pro

gonna paste in those same things, right?

The, the style, et cetera,
um, and so on and so forth.

And it will do in the chat, it will
just pull out and create basic text.

Um, also if you, the, the system
itself, if I go into the settings

here, uh, the output language, you can
also change, um, the interface itself.

So if, if English is not your
first language, uh, you can change

the interface to be, uh, to make
it whatever you want it to be.

Uh, it looks like our infographic.

Is complete in Haitian
Creole and here we have it.

I don't speak Haitian Creole, so
I'm unable to validate its output,

but it did a, it did a, a very nice
anime style Minecraft infographic.

Speaker: Very cool.

We do have a French teacher in the
chat room who said, uh, you know,

any other world teachers here wonder
how to use it in a French class?

Speaker 3: Well, let's
change the language.

Um, let, uh, let's do, uh, do
we want to do European French

or, uh, Canadian French?

Speaker: European

Speaker 3: French Do con Yeah,
we'll do continental French.

Alright.

Uh, so let's go into notebook.

Lm go into our infographic again.

Uh, this time we will choose, uh, f.

We will put in this and
we will do a sketchbook.

Actually, let's do the
Kauai style just for fun.

Um, and let's make it square.

Uh, because again, uh, if you are
a, a, a media literate, uh, teacher

that shares stuff on like Instagram
and things, hey, square format.

Now you can, uh, post stuff
on, on Instagram there.

Alright?

While it's doing that, our 45 minute
lesson plan, minute by minute from the

chapter, uh, has been generated and we
have the, the timings and then it tells

you where, what in the textbook to use.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker: All right.

What do you guys think?

Drop it in that chat.

Give us a, give us a sense.

Let us, give us, let us,
yeah, give us a sense.

Um, let us know that you're still here
and haven't walked completely away.

I know you haven't because we're so fun.

Um, yeah.

This is great.

And so, okay.

Speaker 2: Thanks.

Some ideas.

Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Okay.

So let's let, okay, so let's, um,
sorry, Chris, you may, maybe you keep

going on this, but I'm, I would love
to like, approach this from, you know,

I'm a fourth grade teacher and I need
to, um, I'm teaching about like, uh,

you know, not revolutionary war time.

No.

But like a more like, um, set the
settler, sorry, the, I'm like,

I'm having a total brain fart.

It's Tuesday, I guess.

Um, but, you know, the, like
Jamestown and Yorktown and stuff

like that, or maybe Jamestown.

Right.

Speaker 3: Okay.

So I'll give you an example then.

Let's, let's, uh, while we're,
while it's thinking away.

I don't know much about that, uh,
from a fourth grade perspective,

but what I could do is pull in some
sources to, you know, I'll use the

fast research field in general.

They use deep research over
fast research because it'll,

it'll get somewhat better stuff.

We can say something along the lines
of find first person accounts of the

early settlers in Jamestown, in the USA
first person accounts and historical

narratives, particularly those of
indigenous peoples are preferred.

And we'll set off, uh, fast research.

What fast research does is it goes
out and starts to search the web.

You can give it, and you
should give it a lot of detail.

You should specify, here's the
kinds of things that you want.

Uh, what are you going to use it for
downstream that helps it to tune.

So it did fast research, and what it
does is it comes up with a list of

sources and then you say, you know what?

I want to import those sources.

And we can see here it's
got, uh, some encyclopedias.

It's got, uh, core knowledge, it's got
some Canadian resources as well, uh, which

is, is super interesting and helpful.

And then from there, um, we can say like,
let's create a, let's create a debate,

a thoughtful debate between two hosts.

Um, and for this, we'll say,
create a host appropriate for

a fourth grade English class.

Or students who are between the
ages of 10 and 11 years old, that

looks at the historical narrative
of Jamestown and also the indigenous

perspective to see colonialism
from two different perspectives.

One host should take the perspective of
the colonists, and one host should take

the perspective of the indigenous peoples.

So that will generate a, an audio
podcast that you could then, and

this is where it, you start to get
into, um, multi-format learning.

If you know that you have students
who listen better than they watch,

or less, better than they read, um,
you can generate content for them,

you know, perhaps in their target
language that will resonate with them.

Obviously, you still want to check to make
sure that it's pulling, uh, information

appropriately, but it can do that.

So while it's churning away over
there, let's switch back to this tab.

See how our French infographic.

Uh, turned out.

And so let's make this, there we go.

And make it a little bit bigger

now for, uh, Valerie.

Um, how did it do it?

I can see at least conceptually
the concepts are all the same.

It's drawing from the same
chapter in the textbook.

Uh, and so it has the Minecraft theme,
although I, I appreciate that The

Minecraft theme is now, this, this
Kauai, uh, Japanese, uh, release

says it was, it did pretty good.

Uh, all things considered.

So this is now in a language that.

Uh, I am very poor at,

Speaker: this is great.

My, my, my daughter is in her second year
of French class, so maybe I'll have to

get this image and get her, get her take.

Speaker 3: Exactly.

And so, um, you can, uh, you can literally
ask these tool, this tool, anything

of the data that you've provided, or
go get additional data, um, and, and

generate, um, summaries and literally
anything from the data you've provided.

That's what makes it such a
valuable educational tool, because

you control the sources, you
decide what goes in the system.

Um, so if there are approved sources
that your, your district has, if

there's textbooks that your district
provides in electronic format, uh,

as long as they're not, you know,
password protected and encrypted,

you can put them into this tool.

Um, you can put your own lesson plans
and notes because even if you, even

if you don't have the raw textbook,
if you have the lesson plans, it

can derive information from that
and turn it into, into other things.

Speaker: That is so helpful.

I'm just, tool is so fun.

I've used it in like such a variety
of different ways to like, um, you

know, I think I've shared that I'm
on a, I'm on our local school board

and you know, we've had so much
documented, so many meetings, so many

things that we have to pull together.

And being able to like, pull it
into one notebook, um, and then

kind of distill that information.

Now again, this is not necessarily the
example that you're using for working

with, with students, but at least you
know, my kind of professional life.

It has helped me dig through,
you know, tons of transcripts and

information that I need to help me
make a better informed decision.

Speaker 3: Yeah, there's, there's
so many things that it is capable of

that, um, in fact, lemme just stop
sharing and reshare my screen as the

entire screen, just so, because this
is in a different notebook here.

This is the example of, uh, taking
financial aid stuff, which is, as you

know, incredibly u uh, obtuse, uh, for
students who are true or wanna learn

how to, you know, pay for college.

Um, and it goes through and
it explains what is the Pell

Grant, how do you apply for it?

And we did that in, uh, three different
languages as a demo to be able to

say, like, for, for the Pell Grant,
how do you apply for the Pell Grant?

And this, again, where the audience
was like, okay, that is exactly, you

know, uh, what it says correctly.

Speaker: Just even like had it,
yeah, I mean, the Pell Grant and

just think those FAFSA forms.

I mean, I, you have that in here, you
know, but those F forms are just so.

Confusing.

Speaker 3: Yep.

And the source in this particular one,
this source is the Federal Student

Aid Handbook, which is a 900 page
government document that nobody enjoys.

Um, and being able to turn it
into digestible pieces to help

somebody get through that.

Um, and, and for financial aid
administrators, what they love about

this specifically is they could say,
mm-hmm I need to look up a particular

regulatory thing in a 900 page handbook.

Now I don't have to do that.

Now I can ask this and just
show me the citation of where

in the handbook I need to look.

Speaker: And is that something that you've
created that you're now sharing with them?

Or, or are they creating
their own notebook?

I know that we had, I know we had
conversations in the past about like

how to, you know, how to create it
and like what, how those notebooks are

shareable, shareable, or not shareable.

Speaker 3: Uh, yeah.

So in.

Notebooks are shareable.

Uh, they are share, and you can
share them in one of two ways.

If you're in a Google workspace,
you can only share it with

other people in that workspace.

So like, if you have an email, if you have
a district domain, it can only be shared

with other email addresses in that domain.

If you are on a, if you are using on
a personal Google account, a Gmail

account, you can share it with anybody.

So, for example, the FSA handbook
here, I can share this with people,

anyone who has the link or, or put it
out in public, Google does this, um,

this weird distinction because, uh,
they don't want people accidentally

sharing proprietary information
like far outside their district.

Okay.

Speaker: Oh, that's helpful to know.

Um, yeah, I think that this is,
I mean, I'm just thinking about,

so like, I just wanna share this
example with so many people.

Um, I mean, I know, you know, FAFSA
and stuff, those forms are kind of.

We we're moving on.

Um, tax taxes are due tomorrow, everybody.

Uh mm-hmm.

But no, this is, this is super helpful
that I think this be a really big one

Speaker 3: next for actually taxes
with the assistance of AI this year.

Speaker 2: You did?

Speaker 3: Yes.

Speaker: What?

Okay.

You gotta share this 'cause I'm
gonna, I'm gonna admit this to

everybody and I'm sad to admit this.

I have not submitted my taxes yet.

They're all uploaded, but I just need
to hit the submit button, which is like,

this is Sarah Beth knows that I kind of
procrastinated until the last second.

Like, everything always
works out fine in the end.

And this year I was like, I
actually started in January.

I had it and then I've just sat on it.

So I need to get it done between now and

Speaker 2: tomorrow.

I only got mine in and did everything
because I have to use an accountant.

So they had a deadline a month ago, so
I've already paid my taxes and her, but

Speaker: I thought they were supposed
to be on the tax, tax rebates and stuff.

This year.

Speaker 3: As a business owner, our taxes
are hundreds of pages long because we

have Schedule K ones and all this stuff.

Right?

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes.

And with the new budget bill from last
year, I had to take all 900 pages of the

budget bill, put it in a notebook, lm, and
say, okay, which parts affect my business?

Speaker 2: Whoa.

Speaker: That's crazy.

Speaker 2: I'm, I'm, I'm one
of those people who I'm single,

so we don't get tax breaks

Speaker 3: start

Speaker 2: a business
so people matter too.

Yeah, exactly.

It's the only way to have, right, in
this country, in this capitalist country.

Speaker 3: So in terms of
that, so that's Notebook lm.

Um, it is one of the most powerful,
compelling tools for educators.

It is freely available with limited,
you know, with, with, uh, some

restrictions on, on the features.

It can generate, uh, the
paid versions, $20 a month.

It's part of the Google One subscription
personally, uh, which by the way,

gets you access to a whole bunch of
other things in the system as well.

Um, so it is, uh, it is a fantastic tool.

Uh, remember that it will, it is as
good as the information you put in it.

So make sure that you put in
good information to, to get

good information out of it.

Um, and it is, uh, I would say it's
something that every educator should have,

uh, as part of the, their AI toolkit.

Speaker: A hundred percent agree.

It's amazing.

And yeah, and you can use it
for all these other things.

And now I'm gonna have to ask you how
you used, um, AI for your taxes, but, um,

Speaker 2: yeah, seriously

Speaker: say that, although mine is
not nearly as complicated as as yours.

Um, for sure.

Oh, wait,

Speaker 2: David Scott, wait.

You're not alone.

David Scott.

My personal Gemini AI chat
chatted me to get my taxes paid.

I was really concerned
about me getting my refund.

Tried to

Speaker: you

Speaker 2: some friend
and state took nine days.

Is that good or bad?

Because I did not get a refund.

Is that good?

Does it usually take longer

Speaker: for, I mean,
you got refund I think.

I think refund is great, but
nine days isn't too long.

But David, I'm, I'm
wondering how it chatted you.

Because

Speaker 2: my, so why

Speaker: didn't you yell
you My, my, my, my age.

My age.

Chat box.

Tell me that.

I'm great all the time.

Speaker 2: Yeah, mine's very nice to me.

Very good.

Yeah.

Nine days is great.

I wanna refund.

Um, wow.

This is, I, so I was using notebook,
lm I thought in a cool way, but now

I'm really, because I was doing it
in a rudimentary way, and now I feel

challenged to take it to the next level.

So thank you, Chris.

Speaker 3: You're welcome.

Speaker: So before we close out,
Chris, like, what are, you know,

what's, what's moving and shaken?

I know Chris, you've got, um, I, I
listen to Chris's podcast a lot of

times, uh, on longer drives and kind
of get up to speed and all this stuff.

But like, you're, you're the one
who's really got the pulse of what's,

what's happening, what's moving?

Like, what has you excited,
what has you scared.

Speaker 3: Uh, what has to
be excited is agentic ai.

So these are tools like Claude Cowork
and open work, et cetera, where they

can do things like, uh, with your
permission, uh, take control of your

browser and just start doing tasks.

I did a, I know I can share
a, uh, a, a demo of it.

I had it.

Take control of a CAD system and
have it do an architectural building

code compliance review to say,
okay, how compliant is this building

with, uh, with structural codes?

And I'll put the link in the chat.

It's a YouTube video you can watch.

It's about nine minutes long.

Okay?

Um, you can watch it step through the 3D
building and evaluate and say, and then

produce an audit report saying This is
where this building is not compliant with

your building codes that you provided me.

Uh, you need to fix it.

Wow.

These agents can, yeah, these agents
can now take on long running tasks.

So my CEO, Katie, Robert, uh, who's
also my co-founder of the company,

has literally 100 Xed her output
in terms of the work that she does.

She's revamped the entire website
and she does it with Claude

Cowork, a non-technical tool.

She gives it a task and says, here's
the task, here's your project plan.

Go do it and tell me when you're done.

And it goes off, it does it.

And you know, 30, 45 minutes later
it comes back and says, here's

your new sales kit, here's your
enablement kit, here's your, uh,

new website, and so on and so forth.

And it's pretty phenomenal.

Speaker: That's crazy.

And like, you know, the other question.

So we, you know, we, we say this with the
guardrails and education all the time,

and you know, obviously we wanna continue
to teach critical thinking skills.

Um, and you always have to check
the work and make sure that

there wasn't hallucination like.

Right.

The hallucinations, they're, they're still
happening, but they're, they're happening.

I feel like they're harder to find.

And so, like, what is your
recommendation for folks?

Speaker 3: Um, so, uh, Ethan Molik said
this a few years ago, and I agree with it.

Um, as AI gets smarter,
it makes smarter mistakes.

So you have to be a subject
matter expert in what you are

using it for, to know mm-hmm.

When it is making, uh, mistakes.

And that's something that, that you have
to, you think about the golden, the rule

of thumb is the more data you provide,
the less hallucination it's going to have.

So you, it, it, it can hallucinate,
you know, things like Common Core,

because Common Core has been through,
you know, years and user revisions.

If on the other hand you provide all
the current common core materials,

like I did when I had generate a
math textbook, it did it correctly.

'cause it said, I'm using.

The Massachusetts state,
uh, education requirements.

I'm using your city's requirements, and
I'm using the Common Core framework,

and I provided all the PDFs for it.

So when it generated the math textbook
on its own, it knew exactly what it was

drawing from and what it had to comply.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker 3: So think of it
like project management.

What would you tell, uh, an agency
or a contractor or uh, a, a ta here,

how would you delegate that task
if you knew that you couldn't talk

to them again until it was done?

You think it through?

You give the tools that, and
then it goes off and does it.

That sixth grade math textbook that
it wrote Soup to Nuts took 92 minutes.

That's it, to generate a completely
new textbook that has never

existed before in Minecraft.

Language to be accessible to students,
common core, compliant, and also free,

which means that a school district that's
like, Hey, we can't afford new textbooks.

Well, guess what?

With, with a a, someone who's got
bills and access to one of these

subscriptions, it can generate a book
that you would then submit for review,

obviously with the school committee and
things, but you could save, a district

could save a lot of money and still
have a common core compliant textbook.

Speaker: Oh my gosh.

Okay.

We're running out of time.

And I know, sorry, Beth, do
you have to leave in a second?

Yeah.

I'm like, I'm thinking about
like, school points are the

ones that like review textbooks.

They have to approve it.

There has to be a public, like policy
that has to have like public review.

Oh my goodness.

Oh my goodness.

Okay.

We're gonna have some more
conversations on this one.

Speaker 2: Every single one of these
with Chris generates 10 or 20 new

episode ideas because it, there's
just, this space is just mind blowing.

Like, I'm just, as I'm, as you're
talking, I'm like taking, if you see

me on my phone, I'm literally writing
notes to myself and getting ideas about

how to do my a PUS history review.

It's like, it's almost, I don't know
how, I know we have to go and I have

to go, but I know people in the chat
feel this way as too, it's like, I,

I, I'm, there's so many things that
concern me about ai, but I will say

as a teacher, the back end stuff that.

Helping me do has been so beneficial
to my students in ways they don't

know because they don't like ai
or they say they don't like ai.

But I, it's really
helping in a way that I'm,

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: My mind is blown every day.

So thank you, Chris.

Speaker: Okay.

So, um, I'm gonna end in a second.

I'm gonna end with a, a video that I
produced while we were talking, um,

taking a spoof of our SNL stuff, but
using Legos since we were talking about

Legos to, to bring everything full circle.

Um, but I would say the keynote
that we did last month with

Rebecca Winthrop from Brookings.

Yeah.

We should, the four of us should
get together because that was

such a fascinating conversation.

Like, I would love to talk about these
textbooks, the ethics, all this stuff,

and just kind of, because Uhhuh, you know,
clearly we have more to talk about there.

So stay tuned for a webinar
near you coming sometimes.

Um, during our terrible twos,
since we are now two years old.

Speaker 2: Oh, watch out.

Speaker: That's yes.

Alright, everybody, thank you so much.

I'm gonna end with this
really quick video.

I can't guarantee, um, quality

Hmm.

Speaker 4: In education today, we are
drowning in information that is just

a typical Monday morning now featuring
personalized ads in every lesson.

And yes, an AI degree is now mandatory.

It is the future.

Speaker: Okay.

Not too bad, not too bad, honestly,
but, you know, I also, okay.

Yeah.

Um, Chris, Chris, I, I'm
also gonna challenge you.

I'm gonna challenge you Chris.

Uh, one of the webinars we did with you
a while ago was kind of an AI competition

of, we're gonna have, we're gonna have
to bring back the prompt off or the,

you know, product AI off of some sort.

Uh, and let the, we'll have to
bring that one back to the next,

next session for a fun thing.

We'll figure what that is.

Okay?

We are going on way too long.

Um, you guys are fantastic.

Um, I hope you guys are all staying.

Thank you for, thank you David,
for our second anniversary.

Um,

thanks

Speaker: David.

And, uh, excited for,
you know, more to come.

We've got a lot more.

And we have a new webinar that's coming
up next month, um, that is on our website.

I may have to email it to you 'cause
I didn't have the link ready to go.

Silly me, but it is about career, um,
and using AI and what we need to do.

So if I can't find it, I can't.

So I will make sure you
guys get that email invite.

All right.

All right.

Any final words, Chris or Sarah?

Beth before I say goodbye?

Adios.

Um, and go find my daughter who,
I don't know if you saw her.

I just gave her my credit card
and said, go fi, go feed yourself.

I saw that.

So I need to go, I need to go,
uh, deal with that one soon.

Yeah, I saw that.

Good luck.

Speaker 5: Take care everyone.

Speaker 2: Good luck with all that.

Thanks

Speaker: everyone.

Alright, bye.

Good luck.

Thanks everybody.

Bye.

Bye.

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showing us what NotebookLM can really

do — and for casually mentioning
he did his taxes with AI, which

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